3 lemon cream pie taste Recipes

bramley apples, salted water (stop cut apples going brown), quince marmalade or to taste. ( if you can tsp get i have used a good normal marmalade), lemon juice to taste, caster sugar to taste for the filling and a little more to sprinkle over the pie and sweeten the cream., quantities of quince marmalade , sugar and lemon juice will depend on the apples used so make sure you taste the filling before putting it in the pie)., pastry, self raising flour, lard, baking margarine (keep a little back to dot onto the pasty lid), sour milk (2-3 days in warm kitchen) (i have added a tbsp of sour cream to the milk to speed up the process, this can be used immediately then), a pinch of salt

crepe batter, eggs, flour, water ( yes not milk in this recipe ), salt, oil or butter to fry, canned thick pumpkin ( or pumpkin pie filling ), full fat cream cheese, at room temperature, egg, sugar, cinnamon , or pumpkin pie spice to taste if using plain pumpkin, lemon optional